Diplom-Ingenieur (BA) - What is the English translation? English translators help English translators with the translation of Diplom-Ingenieur (BA)

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257 months ago

dinesh khator (a guest user) asked this question:

Language pair:	German > English
Subject:	Other
Level of diffculty:	Easy / medium
Word or term in question:	Diplom-Ingenieur (BA)
Context:	common sense
Keywords:	-

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257 months ago

wrote:

Chartered Engineer

My comment:

This is the correct UK English translation to my mind.

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257 months ago

wrote:

graduate engineer

My comment:

or chartered engineer (UK)
or graduate in civil engineering

(forget my earlier answer)

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257 months ago

wrote:

graduate engineer

My comment:

or chartered engineer (UK)
or graduate in civil engineering

(forget my earlier answer)

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257 months ago

wrote:

diploma engineer

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257 months ago

wrote:

Where to start? The English 'diploma' is not a 'Diplom' - this is a classic false friend. Furthermore, the syntax simply shouts 'non-native speaker'.

257 months ago

wrote:

Graduate Engineer (Chartered Engineer=UK)

My comment:

Usual abbreviation: B.Eng. rather than BA.

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257 months ago

wrote:

This is higher than B.Eng. (as, indeed, is a chartered engineer); so which answer are you suggesting?

257 months ago

wrote:

Graduate Engineer (Chartered Engineer=UK)

My comment:

Usual abbreviation: B.Eng. rather than BA.

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257 months ago

Cdot11 wrote:

graduate engineer (Bachelor)

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257 months ago

wrote:

This is higher than a B.Sc. and the combination you suggest (with Bachelor) is not what a native speaker would ever use.

257 months ago

Cdot11 wrote:

associate diploma in engineering.

My comment:

none

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257 months ago

wrote:

Why is it equivalent? And what is an 'associate diploma' anyway?

257 months ago

Cdot11 wrote:

Graduate Engineer

My comment:

or Gradute in Civil Engineering

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257 months ago

Cdot11 wrote:

Graduate engineer with diploma

My comment:

"Graduate engineer" covers all kinds of degree and thus obviates the need to equate German degrees with British ones, which is ultimately not possible. I question the use of "Master's" here; a "Betriebsakademie" does not claim to be the same as a conventional university, and a "Master's" usually requires two years or so of post-graduate work, whereas an "Ingenieur" can complete his diploma work in six or eight months.

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257 months ago

Barbara Tinschert wrote:

Deutsche Bezeichnung stehen lassen

My comment:

Ich würde die deutsche Bezeichnung in jedem Fall stehen lassen und die englische Entsprechung bzw. Bezeichnung in Klammern dazu setzen

My references:

so verfahre ich seit Jahren bei Zeugnissen, Lebensläufen ect.

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257 months ago

Cdot11 wrote:

amen

257 months ago

Barbara Tinschert wrote:

graduated engineer (BA)

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257 months ago

Cdot11 wrote:

Absolutely not: 'graduated' is a term used by non-native speakers as a direct translation from German (and more often Spanish). An engineer cannot be 'graduated', but only a 'graduate'. Measuring cylinders/beakers are graduated, but not people. 'Graduated' can be used as a verb (I graduated from X university), but not as an adjective for people.

257 months ago

Cdot11 wrote:

John Kinory's answer is correct, you cannot be a graduated engineer! I also disagree with those who suggested using master- this is too high. Graduate engineer would be my suggestion. Pam Seidel Pam Seidel

257 months ago

German Translations & Interpreting wrote:

M.Sc.-Equivalent Engineer (Berufsakademie = Polytechnical College)

My comment:

I always find the M.Sc.-equivalent appropriate to avoid the false friend Diplom - diploma. BA stands for Berufsakademie.

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257 months ago

Cdot11 wrote:

It's equivalent to M.Sc. However, I tend to use M.Eng.

257 months ago

German Translations & Interpreting wrote:

Thank you, colleague. New and good ideas always welcome. Take care.

257 months ago

German Translations & Interpreting wrote:

Graduate engineer with diploma

My comment:

"Ingenieur" has a bachelor's degree in engineering. "Diplom-" means that he wrote a post-graduate thesis. "BA" means he gained his degree from a "Betriebsakademie", a "Business college" rather than a traditional university.

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257 months ago

German Translations & Interpreting wrote:

Diploma is a false friend. In English, diploma is not a degree, whereas this person wrote a thesis or dissertation (BE/AE), and has a postgraduate degree. Hence M.Eng.

257 months ago

Silver Fern Translations wrote:

graduate engineer from a german "Berufsakademie" (vocational college)

My comment:

In Germany graduates from all tertiary institutes of education except universities have to show in brackets after the initials of their degree what sort of institute they graduated from. The German Berufsakademie is a relatively recent phenomenon and is very approximately equivalent to a very minor degree-granting British polytechnic college or something similar.

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257 months ago

Silver Fern Translations wrote:

Graduate Engineer

My comment:

I usually use Graduate Engineer, especially if the qualification (BA) is given after the title.

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