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101 months ago

lundeghe keming (a guest user) asked this question:

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101 months ago

   wrote:

Complacency rosette

101 months ago

Ffion Marianne Moyle   wrote:

Token rosette

My comment:

As in "non-genuine" aka "for convenience only"

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101 months ago

Ffion Marianne Moyle   wrote:

phoney /bogus rosette ribbon calvary decoration

My comment:

Based on what I found in Larousse and Collins Robbins, and the fact that it was given to him, "at his request". He might not have really earned it, fair and square.

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101 months ago

Marie-Claire   wrote:

Yes. I found something too that said "de complaisance" "given to someone who doesn't deserve it". So "fake" or "bogus" I don't have enough context, but the context has a satirical tone. The names sound made up to impress. I didn't research so this is a just my guess, and I could be wrong.

101 months ago

Marie-Claire   wrote:

Here's the link. http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/complaisance

101 months ago

Marie-Claire   wrote:

"Certificat de complaisance" is "given to please the person concerned", according to Larousse. Like in the case of a doctor's excuse that is written for someone who just wants more time off work , even though her/his illness is not, or may no longer be, serious.

101 months ago

Marie-Claire   wrote:

Sorry, it's "CAVALRY decoration".

101 months ago

martynback   wrote:

You're right, Barbara, but this is a description of the object that would be used in a museum inventory or auction catalogue, , so I don't think "phoney" and "bogus" are really a fit here. "Unofficial", maybe?

101 months ago

martynback   wrote:

No, I don't think "unofficial". The idea is that it's based on a fraud.

101 months ago

Ffion Marianne Moyle   wrote:

ribbon with rosette of convenience (?)

My comment:

The rosette is a rose-like pattern on the ribbon. It is also a small ribbon that you wear on the lapel of the jacket when you don't want to wear the medal of "chevalier de la légion d'honneur". Besides, "l'ordre de la Milice dorée" is also called "l'ordre de l'Eperon d'or". It is awarded by the pope. What I don't understand is the fact that the original ribbon seems to have been modified, which is normally not allowed.

My references:

Wikipedia: ordre de l'Eperon d'Or

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101 months ago

martynback   wrote:

Bonjour Serge: Except for potentially contrary additional context, with what we have at this point, I agree with this interpretation.

101 months ago

martynback   wrote:

Bonjour Serge: Except for potentially contrary additional context, with what we have at this point, I agree with this interpretation.

101 months ago

martynback   wrote:

non-official rosette ribbon ? (just an idea)

My comment:

I think "de complaisance" might mean that the colours of the ribbon don't represent or symbolise anything official (whereas for most military medals the ribbon itself would express rank etc). It seems old Antoine asked for the honour rather than being awarded it for his merits, so perhaps it was just a made-up title designed to please him. This is very speculative!

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101 months ago

Marie-Claire   wrote:

More context needed. You might be right, but as you say, so far we can only speculate.