non verbis sed operis - What is the English translation? English translators help general English translators with the translation of non verbis sed operis

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10 months ago

Ney Baez (a guest user) asked this question:

Language pair:	Latin > English
Subject:	General
Level of diffculty:	Easy / medium
Word or term in question:	non verbis sed operis
Context:	This is my school's motto but I'm wondering now if it is even grammatically correct. It has always been loosely translated as "by deeds not words" but I've come to think that's not accurate...
Keywords:	motto

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9 months ago

plaisirsdelavie wrote:

the litteral translation is:"not by words but by deeds", a latin equivalent of actions speak louder than words.

My comment:

Typical of anglo-saxon education where developing physical and mental qualities is considered at least as important as academic knowledge.

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9 months ago

Jennifer White wrote:

should be operibus

My comment:

with or by deeds (ablative case, 3rd conjugation)

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9 months ago

Jennifer White wrote:

This is a neuter noun "opus". Conjugation should read "declension" for what it's worth!

9 months ago

exegete wrote:

Ney, What are you looking for: a correction of the source text or a translation of the source text?... You entered a Latin to English question, then you wrote you questioned the source text... Please... We do have other things to do than trying to guess what's on the author's mind... This is not translation, it's divinatory art... Could you CLOSE this question if Jennifer answered your question about the source text? The official English translation is FINE, no problem...

9 months ago

Jennifer White wrote:

exegete - the asker made it clear that he wanted to know whether there was a grammatical error here. There is. A clear question, and I hope a clear answer!

9 months ago

plaisirsdelavie wrote:

Pas forcément puisque opera, operae est synonyme de opus, operis.

9 months ago

Jennifer White wrote:

(Why is this post in French??) You are right - there is a word "opera" but I've never come across it as anything other than the plural of "opus", both during my classical Latin studies and in translating Latin documents. But I admit, it can't be classed as an error.

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